The future of DSJ

[Austrian_Skijumpfan_94]

What about hillpack DLCs ?
Is that an opprtunity to get some extra content ?

[MJumper]

I think the problem with hillpack DLC is multiplayer: obviously you shouldn't be able to play hills you haven't bought, but that means those hills can't be in the tournaments because not everyone has bought the DLC, and then what's the point of buying it anyway, only for offline playing?

By the way I'm curious: would a paid-for DLC actually be against the "Free updates to DSJ4 series" promised in the purchase description or not (since technically it's not an update but additional content)? I would be open to the idea of DLC, but I can't figure out what it would be other than hills. Official jumper packs, custom jumper suits? Doesn't sound like something that enough of us would buy.

[davisp]

I think the problem with hillpack DLC is multiplayer: obviously you shouldn't be able to play hills you haven't bought, but that means those hills can't be in the tournaments because not everyone has bought the DLC, and then what's the point of buying it anyway, only for offline playing?

By the way I'm curious: would a paid-for DLC actually be against the "Free updates to DSJ4 series" promised in the purchase description or not (since technically it's not an update but additional content)? I would be open to the idea of DLC, but I can't figure out what it would be other than hills. Official jumper packs, custom jumper suits? Doesn't sound like something that enough of us would buy.

I think Jussi already answered this and said that DLC which are not for free are against this "free updates" promise. I also think that DLC which cost some money would be a good idea. In terms of multiplayer: you could get the hills if you purchase DSJ online. What I would prefer: Additional hills are only available if you have an active online account. You can play them online and offline. If your online abo runs out of time, you lose the hills in offline-mode too. Maybe this could be another prevention for cracking the game.

[MJumper]

What I would prefer: Additional hills are only available if you have an active online account. You can play them online and offline. If your online abo runs out of time, you lose the hills in offline-mode too. Maybe this could be another prevention for cracking the game.

I like this idea. In a way, it also somewhat circumvents the "free updates" thing as everybody gets the actual hill updates to the game for free, even if an online subscription is required to play the updated hills. But I'm not sure how flexible to interpretation this is, it might be that they would have to be completely exclusive to the online game for the legal stuff to work (?). Personally, though, I wouldn't mind that either.

But seeing that Jussi has another job now, I don't know if it will make any sense for him to invest his time into something like this even if it could work (of course we all hope this isn't the case).

[AlexRollercoaster]

I wouldn't count on that either. With the current level of sales it's very difficult to continue working on the game full time. The problem is that many play but few pay.

So your ideas are want to make the paying player even more to pay, but as Jussi say we have to make the not paying players to pay, for big games with 10000+ players a few cracked games arent a disaster but for such small games like DSJ4 its completely ruining them. Maybe he should do a lock for a maximum of 2-3 computers, and sb. got a new pc, he could ask Jussi if its possible to make the key for the new PC working. because 15€ arent that much for a game maybe Jussi could do discounts at season start and season end for maybe 10€. All those keys which are used on more than 10 PC's should get inactivated.

[Najaraniec]

Really, Jussi? Do you really want to end the adventure like that? I want to cry when I just think about DSJ4 whithout the future. You could really change the Ski Jumping world (video games). There was so many hills that you could add to DSJ. There was so many other things that you could add to the game! And all of this just come to an end wthout any real ending. Just.. to cry...

[AlexRollercoaster]

Really, Jussi? Do you really want to end the adventure like that? I want to cry when I just think about DSJ4 whithout the future. You could really change the Ski Jumping world (video games). There was so many hills that you could add to DSJ. There was so many other things that you could add to the game! And all of this just come to an end wthout any real ending. Just.. to cry...

Well yeah, but what he should do? He doesnt get enought money or he should run up debts?

[Koniasty]

So I see that most of you try really hard to defend Jussi. Why? He completely ruined DSJ because he's too lazy to make new hills. It's not about the money, he said that he has a good job somewhere else.
TL;DR
DSJ was his only source of income, now he has a job so he doesn't need to make DSJ anymore.
GJ Jussi, I seriously regret buying DSJ, I've only lost my money, nothing else.

[MJumper]

So I see that most of you try really hard to defend Jussi. Why?

Because those who bought the game bought it at whatever state it was at that time and if they were happy then, why complain now? There were never any promises that DSJ will keep evolving forever (and really, you should not expect that of any game).

This discussion is also useless because complaining and/or expressing one's disappointment will not lead to improvements (probably it will only drive Jussi even farther away from developing the game because all of the bad publicity further reduces the amount of potential customers).

[Jussi Koskela]

So I see that most of you try really hard to defend Jussi. Why? He completely ruined DSJ because he's too lazy to make new hills. It's not about the money, he said that he has a good job somewhere else.
TL;DR
DSJ was his only source of income, now he has a job so he doesn't need to make DSJ anymore.
GJ Jussi, I seriously regret buying DSJ, I've only lost my money, nothing else.

Yes, I am definitely too "lazy" to have two full time jobs.
The game is still as good as it was last year.

[akkarbelling]

So I see that most of you try really hard to defend Jussi. Why? He completely ruined DSJ because he's too lazy to make new hills. It's not about the money, he said that he has a good job somewhere else.
TL;DR
DSJ was his only source of income, now he has a job so he doesn't need to make DSJ anymore.
GJ Jussi, I seriously regret buying DSJ, I've only lost my money, nothing else.

What do you know about that it was his only source of income? You've lost your money? Too bad for you dumbass.

[Szymon11]

So I see that most of you try really hard to defend Jussi. Why? He completely ruined DSJ because he's too lazy to make new hills. It's not about the money, he said that he has a good job somewhere else.
TL;DR
DSJ was his only source of income, now he has a job so he doesn't need to make DSJ anymore.
GJ Jussi, I seriously regret buying DSJ, I've only lost my money, nothing else.

Yes, I am definitely too "lazy" to have two full time jobs.
The game is still as good as it was last year.

I agree with you Jussi, you're a human and you have to rest and you have the main privillage to choose.
Yes, the game is still good but the more you have, the more you want

[Maciejo-96]

If you want, you could do DSJ4 like a part-time job But if you don't want, no problem Do things which you mean are the most important actually.

[jakub17]

Another idea. What about versions for other platforms, for example Playstation Vita? It would be great to play DSJ wherever you want. Controls could be a mix of touch screen (pose in air) and buttons (e.g. bumpers --> take-off and landing). I have this game on PC, but I would buy a second copy for Vita.

[Szymon11]

Another idea. What about versions for other platforms, for example Playstation Vita? It would be great to play DSJ wherever you want. Controls could be a mix of touch screen (pose in air) and buttons (e.g. bumpers --> take-off and landing). I have this game on PC, but I would buy a second copy for Vita.

PS Vita is not suitable platform for DSJ. Creating this game on it deamands wide knowlegde about the programming and time to take up building the whole game anew.
The second thing against Vita is that this console is not owned by many players so the game on it can't succeed, because of the lack of payments for further updatates and small spread of ski jumping all around the world (only Europe and Japan actually).